Monday, May 11, 2009

Dee and the Eileen Burke Video

How can a person, watch and listen to a video interview, give so much embellished information, and then claim it as what was said?? Will Dee's ignorance and ineptness ever show her to be at least half way intelligent, or is this one of those "Do I have to dumb things down for you" moments? I watched and listened to the video as well, I boldfaced Burkes actual statements she made in the video and I have italicized Dee's embellishments to Burkes interview.

1. She lives across the street from the park where Ramirez was murdered.
The picture in the video appears to be Burkes home on W. Lloyd Street across the street from the park located on Vine Street, with only an upstairs window able to view the park in its entirety, while the lower windows and entry are hampered by her patio cover.
UPDATE: Burkes address is 531 W. Lloyd St., Shenandoah, PA. According to google earth maps, its about the 5th house up the street, not the house on the corner as shown in the video. If this is accurate, it changes the distance Ramirez would have had to run to hit Scully in the back of the head. Can anybody verify Burkes house and its location? Is Google Maps correct?

2. She heard the racial epiteths hurled at Ramirez as he and his friend were walking through the park. She repeats them. "Go back to Mexico." Names/etc. @ 1:50 - 3:00; What Burke says is, I thought it was "kids playing basketball and telling someone "to go back to Mexico" at the park as kids sometimes do, taunting one another". She was going to give it until 12:00 PM, midnight, before calling the police for them to be quite. Then she heard girls screaming a few minutes later outside her home. This is when she called 911.

Here is a link from American Humanity from July 25th, 2008, NOTE: The following paragraph is not exactly what she says in the interview, it does vary quite a bit and is used only for the purpose of showing that she had the A/C on, that she hears screaming all the time from the park, and that she called 911:
“With the park across the street, I hear screaming all the time, but I turned down the air conditioning so I could hear what was going on and I could see kids going back and forth and a girl was screaming ‘Please stop hitting him,’ ” Burke said. “I called 911 to get an ambulance. There seemed to be too many kids around and I thought I’d better be safe than sorry. When I got out the front door, there was one kid running down the pavement. I heard a thud and the kid ran past again.”
This would also corroborate that a second fight took place, as the first fight was at the park, or very close to it, and the second fight where Ramirez (as Ariel states in her testimony, "And so, Victor and I ran up to Luis, and we said, “What happened?” But he was so mad, he wasn’t really talking to us. And those kids kept yelling stuff, and he went back, and the kids turned around, and the fight started again..") came running up and hit Scully in the back of the head and Walsh knocked him out cold.

3. She called 911 to report the crime. They were slow in responding.
@ 3:50 - 4:40; 911 was asking her for information.

4. She became frustrated and went out on her porch. She saw the jocks. She heard the fatal kick to the head. She saw Arielle arrive.
Ariel was already there, how could she see her arrive?
@ 4:40 - 6:05; Burke heard a "thud" and then Burke saw 6-8 boys standing in a circle, when they walked/ran away she saw someone lying on the ground.

5. Piekarsky and Walsh confronted her in her front yard. Piekarsky pushed out his chest and tried to intimidate her. He told her to keep quiet or she would wind up like her Mexican friend on the ground. Burke had never met Ramirez before that evening. @ 5:52 - 6:30; Burke said, "Piekarsky threw his chest into me, she knew right then they were juveniles, Piekarskys eyes got big because he knew I knew who he was". Piekarsky never said anything to Burke. Burke could not identify who yelled back "get your effin"...." to, as Burke said, Ariel or Roxanne.

6. She saw Piekarsky and Donchak run off together with the other jocks, hiding in the other side of the park. @ 11:40; Burke saw the boys remove their shirts and place them in their back pockets, "looked like white tail deer" go to the park over the knoll she is pointing to. Piekarsky and Donchak hit the Garcia's jeep parked at the park. Burke said she told the officer that he should go to the park to see if the boys were by the ball field, she was betting they were still there.

7. She went to Ramirez and Arielle who was hysterical standing next to Luis who was foaming at the mouth. Burke describes the foaming and dent in his head, the swelling, yet no blood. She described the indentation on Luis' chest. @ 7:05 - 7:20; Burke said "there was a big red mark on his chest."
This would explain Ramirez having no shirt, as Roxanne stated, "he took off his shirt, and handed it to me along with his medallion and wallet.
8. When she talked to Arielle, Arielle said she knew Scully and Donchak from school, she did not know the others. Burke said she knew Piekarsky and Walsh from the neighborhood. @ 9:00

9. The police who initially arrived were from different cities and one sheriff. The Shenandoah police, Moyer, arrived later. He was rude and abrasive to both of them. He asked them both if Luis was drunk. When the ambulance finally arrived, he suggested Luis was faking it. He attempted to kick Luis but Eileen stopped him. @ 14:45 - 15:30; Moyer asked the EMT's questions about Ramirez, not Ariel or Burke. Burke states, "he put his foot back", and Burke "ASSUMED" he was going to do something, possibly kick to see if he was faking, but he never did anything beyond that.

10. Eileen told Moyer and Hayes his partner who arrived later that she saw Piekarsky and Donchak and Arielle told them she knew Scully and Walsh from school and they were the perpetrators. Moyer and Hayes would not take their report. @ 16:40

11. Instead, about 30 minutes later, Moyer and Hayes pick up some stranger in town who had a bat in his had and took him to Arielle and asked her if he was the attacker. She said no. Burke said she told them who the perpetrators were.
@ 19:00; The person they brought back had on a ball cap, not a bat.

12. Eileen said the cook from RJs bar came to the scene. The cook came to see what was going on. The cook said officer Jay Hayes had called Tammy Piekarsky who worked at the bar and said she better leave work and get a hold of Brandon because he could be in a lot of trouble. The reason Hayes was delayed in getting to the scene was because he was busy contacting Brandon's mother and developing the cover story for the perpetrators. They all met at Donchak's house to get the story straight. @ 17:50

13. Burke said it took 9 - 10 days before the perpetrators were even charged for the crime because of the cover up. @ 24:35
Officers and DA's need to obtain warrants based on evidence and testimony, and it actually took 12 days to pick up the accused. Incident took place on the evening of July 12, 2008 and Piekarsky and Donchak were arrested on July 25, 2008.

14. The prosecution initially said she would be called as a witness, but a week before the trial said she would only be called if needed. She describes how the lead prosecutor never interviewed her and had no intention of calling her to the stand and how a backup ADA strung her along. There never was serious consideration to strongly prosecuting the case. Her testimony would have broken this case wide open with the TRUTH!!! AND the Cover up!! @ 20:38
Burkes testimony would have done nothing at all other than corroborate what was said by Ariel and Roxanne. The only thing she might be good for is if there is a case brought about against the officers who came to the scene.

Burke was a meter maid for the City of Philadelphia, a low ranking officer with minimal experience in crime scenes. Her statements however of the officers on scene should get something going into an investigation of the way the case may have been handled by the officers.


Anonymous said...

Did you and Dee both write down these things before the video was removed from penn live? Frankly, if Dee is just recollecting what was said in the video, that is quite impressive!

You point out many minute inconsequential differences with Dee's account. Dee will not be the one who will ultimately testify, but if a federal case is pursued, Eileen Burke may testify. I think Dee got the gist of what Eileen's account was.

Liquidmicro said...

I am guessing Dee wrote it down after the video was removed, since her UPDATE states: Here is a summary of what she said.

I, having also reviewed the video, did not realize it had been removed and gave the boldfaced statements. I went to watch the video again for the 4th time to put in the time marks of each numbered point and realized the video had been deleted. I searched the entire web for a copy of it to place in my topic too, but was unable to find one. So, when and if the video becomes available again, I will time stamp each numbered statement so that you can verify exactly what Burke says. I guarantee you, it is not what Dee says Burke said.

Minute inconsequential differences?? You are kidding right?? My point is Dee and many others have made this out to be something that it is not. It is NOT a Racially Motivated Hate Crime, and it is NOT Murder.

Burkes interview actually corroborates Ariel Garcias account and Roxanne's account.

As for Dee, much of what she has written was embellished and made out to be that Burke knows more than what she has actually stated.

patriot said...

Dee has often lied and spun the truth. We all know that from posting in her blog. She is totally blinded by her ethnocentric racism.

Liquidmicro said...

Whats even sadder is that she put up a new topic: Luis Ramirez Murder: Looking Back at Early Witness Videos Confirms Murder As Racial Hate Crime! and she still can't get the information correct as to the chain of events and there occurrences. She keeps embellishing the facts, so much so that she can't open her eyes to anything but what she has stated.

The Advocates spout that they believe the "boys" testimony, yet they only use bits and portions of it, out of context, to attempt to make a case of what they are advocating for.

patriot said...

Another thing that Dee said under that topic is that the kick in the head killed Ramirez when even the autopsy didn't reveal what actually caused his death. Dee is nothing but a pathological liar and truth spinner. Her ethnocentric racism has turned her into a psycho.

Turtle said...

Me again! Eileen Burke was not called to the stand because she was considered an unreliable witness. Her story changed every single time she did a TV interview. She could not be trusted to tell the truth, assuming she could even remember what the truth was. All that attention was on her for her embellished stories, she may not even know what really happened anymore.
Also, I read a story about Burke (don't remember reference anymore) but it was something about Burke being removed from the Philly meter maid position for being somewhat disturbed, living on disability, and that Burke had claimed at some point that she no longer wears glasses (and did not wear them the night of the fight) because her eyes had miraculously healed themselves ten years ago.
I will see if I can't find where I read that. Also, Burke has an interview on from right after the trial, if that helps you. Linkage:

Turtle said...

I think I found the video you are referring to, or one close to it. It's titled "The video of Eileen Burke No one Wants You to See"

and it's at

On the top right hand side.

Question: Why was there NO BLOOD if this really went down that way?

Liquidmicro said...

I actually have the video of the Ford and Burke interview in the first paragraph in the topic. I found it, no less, on LA VOZ DE AZTLAN.

Like she says in the video, she was unable to see anything, she only heard events and can't contribute anyything she heard to any one person, all she can do is state she saw Piekarsky and Donchak when the were running.

Turtle said...

I don't mean to take over all the comment space ;) but I wanted to point out a HUGE question:

Burke says in the video towards the end that she was with Arielle, and a green jeep pulled up, and Arielle told her it was her husband, Victor.

The court testimony from just about all the witnesses, told us that Victor was already at the scene, had even scrapped with a couple of the boys, and Victor himself on the stand admitted to throwing punches.

If Victor was already there, how then could he have arrived in the jeep?

I do have the answer to this question. Victor got in the jeep with Diego Tovar et. al. to search for the teen boys. Diego Tovar is the lovely illegal alien who brought the gun at Ramirez's request. (Colin Walsh testified that he heard Ramirez say "9mm" on the phone.) When the boys went into the park and ran through it, Victor and Diego couldn't get to them, and they soon heard the police sirens, so they turned back, Diego threw the gun into the bushes, and pretended like it never happened.

Burke says the cops were "rude" and it took forever to get the ambulance there, well Miss "Former Philly Cop" should KNOW that a crime scene has to be secured before EMS is allowed in. Derrick Donchak called 911 and reported a man with a gun. The cops were there to secure the scene.

Okay, I'm done. Thanks for letting me share!

Liquidmicro said...

You can leave as many comments as you wish Wendi. I have no set number of allowances. The more information you can post only helps to clear the picture of what actually took place.

It would also explain Redmonds statement that it was his friends to Tovar, when Tovar and Victor did catch up to 2 of the boys, Redmond and Donchak. Testimony, Day 3, between 2:38 PM and 2:57 PM; Redmond: we ran away. After the incident we encountered two males, one with a gun, who questioned us about the fight.
Redmond: we told them it was our friend, not us. Donchak said he was going to call the friend, but really called the cops.

Turtle said...

I was being facetious about leaving comments ;) LOL

One question we do not yet have answered, I don't believe we do anyway, is what happened from the time Tovar had the gun in the boys' faces, Derrick calling 911, and Tovar/Garcia returning to the street. Did Tovar hear Derrick speaking to 911 and reporting the gun? That would also serve to explain why he felt it necessary to throw the gun in the bushes. Tovar told the jury the gun was tucked under his shirt the whole time, that he never brought it out, but then how did Derrick and Redmond see it?